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抵制日貨文章 (回應楊昌力抵制日貨倡議)

  • Bill Ho dated 04/05/2005 on boycotting Japanese Goods
  • YC Fung dated 04/05/2005 on boycotting Japanese Goods
  • WM Chan 03/05/2005 Re: A reminder of caution on boycotting Japanese Goods
  • Lawrence Chan 01/05/2005 Re: A reminder of caution on boycotting Japanese Goods
  • WM Chan 03/05/2005 Re: A reminder of caution on boycotting Japanese Goods
  • Lawrence Chan 01/05/2005 Re: A reminder of caution on boycotting Japanese Goods
  • Sau Wan Chan 30/04/2005 Re: A reminder of caution on boycotting Japanese Goods
  • YY Tam 30/04/2005 Re: A reminder of cautionon boycotting Japanese Goods
  • WM Chan 30/04/2005 Re: A reminder of cautionon boycotting Japanese Goods
  • Bill Ho 30/04/2005 Re: A reminder of cautionon boycotting Japanese Goods
  • 抵制日貨倡議書 楊昌力
  • 全国人民倡议书 (資料來源有待補充)
  • 加拿大史維會的建議:
  • An article about a new anti-Japanese war (資料來源有待補充))

Generally, I welcome members's boycott to show their feeling,same as WM. I believe that no-one in this group is against anyone to boycott Jap's goods.

One situation to enforce national boycott would be at a time when Chinese products were so bad and so expensive like at the time of May Four ( 1919 ??) We needed that as a weapon to protect our weak industry.

I am on the side to play dirty on Japs, if we can get 30 million signature to agree to boycott, for a month that would have effect on Japs economy. But there may bring counter boycott which can also hurt our economy. With this approach, someone has to convince that we'll win,considering all situation.

I quote a part of message from Martin Luther King who had similar thoughts "Tension was not between the races, but was "between justice and injustice, between the forces of light and the forces of darkness. And if there is a victory it will be a victory not merely for fifty thousand Negroes, but a victory for justice and the forces of light. Thus, tension only existed
between good and evil and not between people."

http://afroamhistory.about.com/library/weekly/aa010901a.htm

I also like to express a legal point in considering boycott on Mitsibishi on the ground that M was a war criminal.To prove that M was involved or participated in the war is not enough because M was just dong her duty to her country. Just like a soldier kills enemy soldier in battle-field is not commiting a crime, but rather carrying her duty at war as instructed.


Another element need to be present for M to commit a war crime is that M caused or administered crimes, particularly like massacre to Nanking.

To go to Court is a nightmare, You will find all sorts of unreasonable denials and that not always the one with better reasons wins.That is the 'democratic world' we live.

I have got severe neck pain resulting from long hours at the computer, much worse than headache last time. I really cannot talk any more in the next two weeks.

Bill


回應楊昌力抵制日貨倡議

昌力兄提議五月不買日貨我很贊成。不單五月,今後也應儘量少用日貨(不是全面抵制),可不用則不用,避免不了的少用,養成習慣。不單日本製造的少用,日本品牌在發展中國家,包括在中國製造的也力求少用。以前基於質量及價錢,我們沒有大多的選擇,特別是民生用品及消費品上,『逼』要用日貨。現在不同了,中國的DVD不比日本差,南韓、台灣的電子產品可比美日本的,就是全掃世界市場的日本汽車,在美國市場,也開始受南韓汽車的威脅。當然,在全球經濟一體的化的趨勢下,完全不用日貨或日本零部件有一定困難,但不等於不可少用。我亦信奉自由經濟及市場經濟,但不等於作為消費者,不可養生傾向性的消費習慣。日本對全球絕大部分國家及地區貿易上均是出超,一個主要原因是日本人長久養成選用國貨的習慣,這也令日本政府在外貿的角力與談判中,振振有詞地道:不是我奉行保護主義,只是國人不習慣用外國貨。這也是戰後日本很快便成為世界第二大經濟體系的一個重要因素。

中國經濟要進一步飛躍,便要進一步貫徹市場經濟。尤以加入世貿以後,在政府層面實行保護主義或進行貿易戰,既不可行,也不智。但在民間層面,作為消費者,完全可以這樣做。在一個和平的國際環境下,按目前方向發展,中國在這廿年內,便會超越日本成為全球第二大經濟體係。日本會成為中國緊密的經濟伙伴,你中有我,我中有你,或者是兩個對立的經濟體係,便要看日本似能否正視歷史,如何對待軍國主義的復活,如何處理中日關係,如何令中國安心。

民生用品可多用內地貨、亞洲貨、港台貨、南韓貨,高檔次、高科技貨多用歐洲貨,就是少用日貨,這有重要的策略意義,有助中國和平崛起。我們養成習慣少用日貨,不應僅是表表態,是有實質作用,是和平、理性地及最有效地壓制日本軍國主義復活。目前中國已超過美國成為日本最大市場,相反,日本已從中國最大市場下跌至低於美國及歐盟成為第三位。若中國13億人民,特別是內地1億中產消費者及台港澳以至海外華人養成這種少用日貨的習慣,對日本經濟是相當沉重的打擊。日本執政自民黨的最重要母體是『經連團』。日本這隻經濟動物受拙,經連團中的大財團 -- 日本軍國主義復活的驅動者,必然會逼使政府軟化。中國對日本採取軍事對抗,既無效,也不利地區和平穩定。總之,打經濟牌是上策,政治外交牌是中策,軍事牌是下策。

中國人崇尚仁者為王,以德服人,日本人崇尚武者為王,以力服人。以中國人的心態與日本人交往,實是緣木求魚。只有把他折服,他才服你,乖乖的跟你,就像美國對日本一樣。他們會依從給他們原子彈的美國,但不會安心與受他們摧殘的中國和平相處,除非中國能顯示力量。(小泉純一郎昨天訪問荷蘭,為戰爭中虐待印尼的荷蘭兵而道歉,就是不向中國人道歉!)野馬為人順服才甘心被人所騎。我們不應騎在日本人頭上,但要令他們折服,才令其知難而退。亞洲以至世界和平穩定方可達成。少用日貨帶來兩地人民的一時的不便不利,換來地區的長治久安是划算的。

寫在05年五四凌晨

YC Fung

 


 

 

WM Chan 03/05/2005 Re: A reminder of caution on boycotting Japanese Goods

Instead of appealing to people to do something which is not going to have a
great impact, I suggest we focus on something more strategic. Right now we
have a lot of passion from people with a strong will-power to do something.
But the venting of passion should not be the aim. Passion can also wane when
efforts put in do not bear useful fruit ( or worse, invite criticism). Since
scepticism is part of the problem in unification, perhaps more elaboration
on why certain actions are being taken will help to enlist the support
required --- not just from Chinese, but from the Japanese as well.

As in the case of the USA, the civilians should not be held accountable for
deeds by the Govt or the military. Should an Iraq person boycott USA goods?
For health reasons, I suppose yes(not just a joke)

WM 03/05/2005


 

 


 

 

Lawrence Chan 01/05/2005 Re: A reminder of caution on boycotting Japanese Goods

Bill, WM, YY, All,

Talking about bias and history rectification, it seems that some of you are taking a more pacifist approach, which I can understand. In a way you are right that we should not muddle in the past and the present too long, else we may lose the future(* here I borrow this beautiful expression used by Lien Jin, the KMD leader in his peace trip in China).

However, while I appreciate your good spirit, I can't exactly agree with your judgment of the situation. I hope you don't mind me saying that, Old Friends. Why?

First, About 60 years: the WWII settlement was muddling and was unfair to the Asian victim countries and people because of the manipulation of the big victors after the war, e.g., the 1951 SF Treaty which was supposed to be the final settlement of the war responsibilities of Japan had got no presence of China, India, Philippines, Korea... Because of the Cold War, friends of the USA/England...had suddenly become their enemies, whereas their biggest enemy Japan had suddenly been taken as their most valuable ally. There were lots of cover-ups and dirty deals behind. The victims, including China, could only swallow the bitter pill at that time.

By international rule, the 'shelved' or 'Classified' secret info/ documents of governments are supposed to be "unshelved" or "declassified" for historical studies after 50 years. But we have seldom seen the US/Japan doing that even now despite that Global Alliance and other scholars have kept pressing for that... So we know preserving and rectifying history needs national strength, resources, inteligence, manpower... 60 years is long enough to wait for redress by the sufferers, but is not that long for rectifying such a big chapter of distorted history under pressure.

As you said, it is already 60 years of waiting and struggling. Do you think we should wait longer, or we just stay out hoping that things can correct themselves?

We are now at the verge of time to have the judgment done now or never. The first generation war victims are dying out quickly. Why don't we make use of them as live witnesses to rectify the twisted history in time? On the other hand, why shouldn't we help to get justice for these dying out victims when there is still time and opportunity?

Second, On Forgive and Forget: While we would like to forgive Japan, we would expect to see it comes with genuine remorse and action. China was generous enough to have given up state compensation. The few legal claims for compensation going on in late years were just some minor civil cases. Yet Japan is still disagreeable. At the same time, it is doing all sort of negatives and provocations. That tells us pure under-tone or good will does not work nor can earn respect. For those of you who have lived in the west long enough should understand what I mean. You have to voice out, and better be backed up with some strength, of course.

Third, On Bias vs. Bias: I agree that we should not generalize all Japanese people as evil, and that we should seek peace and reconciliation. GA and ALPHA are very conscious of that. If we are bias, we would not have got supporters of our course from some Japanese groups in Japan, the National Japanese Canadian Ass. in Canada, Mike Honda the Japanese American legislator in California, the Jewish and other minority ethnic communities… We would not have been been endorsed by BC and Ontario provincial ministries to produce school teaching resources nor to have won provincial peace awards. Unfortunately, we do have difficulty with the western media who are generally bias by ignoring or by distorting the China related issues. That is why we have to speak up at crucial moments. But yes, it is good to be reminded by you good friends to be more cautious. Your comments are very appreciated.

Fourth, On your doubt about why we pick on Mitsubishi. If you have any chance visiting the disputed Yasakuni Shine, there was a Zero fighter plane displayed as the Japanese glory in their great war. It is a Mitsubishi. Mitshubishi was, and still is, one of the biggest supporter and military manufacturers of Japan’s right wing militarism.

We pick Mitsubishi as a good representative of the pro-militarism commercial element. We believe it is strategically more

viable and effective by narrowing down our boycott action on one target at a time with consistence than to boycott all.

Honestly, I think your discussed one month general boycott is not distinctive to be significant.

What about reconsider the GA proposal?

-Kwok Tai 01/05/2005


On boycotting Japanese Goods

It is exactly because we are in the democratic society that we can still find out what happened 60 years ago! The books have not been burnt, the learned are not buried as in the past.

Whether the Japanese goods are made in China is not relevant in present context. The Japanese companies employing foreign workers are not foreign aid. They are not charity. They are capitalists making money by employing the cheap Chinese and South East Asian labour. Don't forget that the Chinese is a very resilient race. They will find jobs in other factories. China is a
very fluid market. Other capitalist will move in to fill the vacuum. There are times for higher cause when sacrifice has to be made.

Did we ask why the Japanese are so arrogant? It is because of their relatively good economy built on cheap labour in part supplied from poorer neighbours. What they spend on voluntary aid is only a fraction of their profit. The boycott is a peaceful way of showing our discontent, but by no means the only way. WE collectively will think of some other means as well.


Ultimately, the Chinese government has to handle the diplomatic arm. After all, it is only for a month. It is a show of solidarity, like the Chinese unified in the May 4 Movement in the past.

When Woo Kam Sang suggested to buy me a camera for my 21st birthday years ago, I asked for any non-Japanese model. I felt proud and warm. I haven't regretted since.

Sau-wan and Kwong Yin.30/04/2005


 

On boycotting Japanese Goods

Agree with Bill and WM. Perhaps there are other ways that we could do in uniting the Japanese people and denouncing such actions of erasing history in regard to war crimes.
Yuen Yin 30/04/2005


 

On boycotting Japanese Goods

Agree with Bill. I'm sceptical as the action could be harming ourseleves (or
other poor countries) because "Japanese goods" may well be made in China (or
other poor countries). It's well known that Sony goods are made in
Indonesia. I don't know about Mitsibisi.

Perhaps the more knowledeable among us can suggest other actions with the
equal effects of "People Power"

WM 30/04/2005


On boycotting Japanese Goods

In a 'democratic world', looking for truth of 60 yrs
ago is really difficult. For example, You have to
prove why Mitsibisi- a car manufacture was a form of
military responsible for war crime.

The case can be dismissed on the ground of prejudice.

On the other hand,once it is established that Jap's
govt. is distorting history, remedial measures like
compensation can flow in.

Bill 30/04/2005

 

 


 

抵制日貨倡議書

各位朋友,


以下兩份抵制日貨倡議書都很值得大家支持,是全球華人給予日本軍國主義者一點顏色的時候了.至少,我們可以讓日本人知道,咱中國人曾經萬眾一心,今天有必要的話, 咱中國人還是可以團結一致的.


第一份倡議書似是國內網友發出,由Paula Chan(已故隊友陳仲訓之夫人)轉給本人,她還表示她本人將付諸行動!這份倡議書末段也許言論過激,但有其優點,可以馬上行動起來.隊友中亦有人表示強烈支持,希望大家除了自己行動起來,也盡可能轉發給親友,且不管人在何方,大家在五月份盡可能不買日貨.


第二份則是陳國泰兄轉來加拿大史維會主席王裕佳醫生及列國遠女士譴責環球郵報社論中的一段,我特別節錄在此供大家參考. 其優點在於可以作為我們長期抵制日貨的理據和指引. 此處再次指出:三菱二戰時生產日本戰機等武器,至今仍為日本軍工支柱!


第三份也是來自大陸網民,言論也許過熱,但他分析抵制日貨的效果,不無可取之處,對我們有鼓勵作用.


五月份是我們第一個戰役,請即行動起來,投入戰役之中! 五月份就是第一個戰役
楊昌力



 

 

全国人民倡议书:

希望所有中国人在5月1日至6月1日期间,停止购买所有日货。时间之所以定在1个月以后,是为了使这个通告让更多的有骨气的中国人知道。那些对不愿意买国货,对日货有感情的人,也强烈要求你们能在5月里有所收敛,配合抵日联盟一起抵制日货。以现在的现实情况,要求所有人都彻底地抵制日货,恐怕难以实现。但是,在一个阶段的时间里,所有的中国人完完全全、彻彻底底抵制日货是完全可能的。现在我们就行动起来,告知身边更多的亲戚朋友同学同事。集合全世界中国人的力量在五月里,给丑陋的日本狠狠的一击。

如果抵制日货是一场战争,那么5月份就是一个战役。只要行动我们就会取胜。 (多多转告QQ好友吧,5月里叫小日本知道痛,看了不发者,不配做中国人,典型的卖国者)

(日) 暮苍山兰舟 (小),
(本) 无落霞缀清 (泉)。
(去) 年叶落缘分 (定),
(死) 水微漾人却 (亡)。


 

 

加拿大史維會的建議:

由民間自動自發的全面策略性抵制,從小作起,從民生日常用品作起,從每個人自身作起,聚沙成塔,聚流成河。這股實力不但合法、合情、合理,人人都能夠做得到。策略性、局部性的抵制,不與任何國家政策、本身利害抵觸,也不至於傷害到全面經濟,反而是「抵制目標」(亦即支持日本右翼的企業株式會社)無法抗拒的最大威脅。我們會號召海外所有國家合作團體,堅持這個策略性全球抵制日貨,以經濟實力來表達我們的決心。

現階段史維會呼籲即時全球罷買三菱集團旗下的所有產品,包括三菱汽車(Mitsubishi)、五十鈴汽車(Isuzu)、三菱手機、電視、錄影機、VCD/DVD、電器、
冷氣機、鉛筆、麒麟啤、Nikon相機。只要能堅持此針對性罷買行動﹐討回歷史公道必有望成功。


 

An article about a new anti-Japanese war

作者: Chinese 于 2001 年 9 月 1 日 22:14:08 ()

無賴的老年日本人根本就不承認侵略過中國﹗
無知的年輕日本人根本就不知道侵略過中國﹗
無恥的軍國主義者說當慰安婦在當時是一種榮耀……
我們在自我安慰的寄希望于日本人的良知,而他們卻認為我們這些可憐的第三世界在編造故事以敲詐他們的錢財……

如果你是一個不太喜歡狂熱﹐冒進的溫和派﹐那麼我個人認為你應該所做的是﹕
把不買日貨這個原則默默地記在心裡﹐我們沒有必要非得用示威或游行來反對日本可恥的行為,我們應在心裡默默的抗議日本對我們犯下的錯誤和他們對這些錯誤無恥的抵賴,我們只需要在購買商品的時候更多的忽視一下日貨﹐能不買日貨就不要去買,相信自己﹐只要我們團結起來﹐人人都能做到這一點﹐就會使日本在經濟上受到打擊 , 就會使他們不敢再輕視我們的力量.

如果你認為自己很狂熱﹐那麼可以先看看下面的數據﹕

在世界各地﹐幾乎90%的華人用的是﹕“日本車”﹐“日本電器”﹗﹗我統計過﹕
如果世界各地的所有華人停止購買日貨﹐日本每年將損失“1000-1400”億美元的外匯收入﹗﹗﹗
“外匯收入”是任何一個國家的源泉和動力﹗﹗ 它和國民經濟的關系是“一帶動八”﹐或者說﹕“損失一份外貿收入﹐這個國家就要損失八份的國內經濟收入﹗”。
換算一下﹕
1000----1400億美元的外匯受入“等價于”一兆美元----日本經濟的總產值的五分之一 (1/5) = 20%﹗﹗﹗
所以﹐如果世界各地華人同心協力﹐不用動刀動槍﹐就可制日本于死地!!而且是永久的死地﹗﹗﹗
我們應該學習尤太人----曾經集體拒買一家德國工廠的產品﹐最後導致這家公司的徹底破產﹗﹗
起因就是因為這個公司的總裁說了一些所謂“理解希特勒”的話﹗﹗
現在德國人對猶太人特別好﹗﹗您知道為什麼嗎﹖
原因有二﹕一個是怕----因為尤太人特別團結﹔ 第二個是尤太人的狠----猶太人從來沒有放棄過對“納粹分子”的追殺----- 只要在這個地球上發現有任何藏匿的“納粹分子”﹐他們就一定就會“抓--綁架”﹐如果實在無法得手﹐那就“殺”﹗
看看我們中國吧﹖﹗
“對劊子手的仁慈﹐無疑就是自殺﹗”
開始行動吧 !
同胞們﹕一年復一年過去了﹐還要等嗎﹖﹗開始行動吧﹗﹗
從我開始做起!
從我家開始做起!!
從我的朋友開始做起!!!
從我身邊的各個組織開始做起!!!!

只要大家共同努力﹕
最後﹐我想最多10年﹐全世界所有的華人都會做到﹗即使能做到一半(50%)。對日本的打擊也是致命的!!
組織一個全球性的“拒買日貨復仇組織”﹗請在各地“串連串連”﹐好嗎﹖﹗同胞們﹐開始行動吧﹗
可以印些傳單﹐讓大家意識“拒買日貨”的重要性﹗
“拒買日貨”首先要防止被“日本狗”誤導
有些所謂的“愛國人士”---(其時是被日本秘密收買的哈巴狗﹐目地是挑撥分離我們本來就不團結的中華大眾)﹐經常提出﹕拒買日貨是不可能做到的﹐原因是幾乎所有的轎車﹐電器裡﹐多少都 有日本的零件。所以還是打住吧﹗“拒買日貨就到此為止”是什麼用意﹖﹗那是因為日本害怕看到 中國大眾組織起來﹐進而進行有效的“抵制日貨”運動﹖﹗故而在這個五十多年來首次完全有可能 組織第一個有效的全球性“拒買日貨”運動時﹐他們便會迫不及待地跳出來叫“停”﹗
“拒買日貨”﹐並非像他們所說的哪樣----“因為這個計算機裡有一個或一些日本零件﹐我就不買﹔這個電視裡有幾個日本造的電子器件﹐我就不要”。“拒買日貨”的口號實際上是要求全球中國人﹐在有選擇可能的情況下﹐盡量不買日本造的貨物﹐如汽車﹐電冰箱﹐洗衣機﹐電視﹐音響。。。等等﹗
五十多年來﹐華人一直記恨于日本﹐但可笑的是卻沒有一個有力的“拒買日貨”組織﹗﹗究其原因,就是因為中國有太多的日本狗從中挑撥分離我們本來就不團結的中華大眾! 中國同胞們﹕清醒過來吧﹗千萬不要再被這種人玩耍了﹗﹗﹗

“拒買日貨"”的意義 :
“拒買日貨"”的意義是巨大的﹗她能讓我們不動一刀一槍就打擊了日本﹐同時又加快了中國經濟的發展﹗
她能讓我們扼制日本﹐進而讓中國立于不敗之地﹗
她能讓我們的子孫免遭我們的前幾代祖先和我們現代中國人所遭受的痛苦﹗﹗
她最終也能讓這個幾百年來一直頑固不化﹐一再屠殺掠奪中國人民的丑陋民族遭受到它應有的懲罰﹗﹗﹗你以為這容易做到嗎﹖絕對不是﹗這需要我 們大家的共同努力﹐ 才能讓全體中國人慢慢地﹐逐漸地意識到﹐然後才能真實地做到﹗﹗

不必要的擔心
1.中日友好根本就不存在﹗過去沒有﹐現在沒有﹐將來也不會有﹗
2.現在中日兩國貿易總額每年達600億美元。是不是因為我們全球中華大眾對日貨的抵 制﹐中國就會受到損失?
這是不會的﹗原因是:
a.日本出口到中國的是高級奢侈品---我們中華大眾可以拒絕﹔
b.中國出口到日本的是普通生活必須品----日本人很難抵制﹐他們其實是在享受著我們廉價的產品﹗
3.另外﹐從中國的長遠利益來看﹐減少對日本產品的過份依賴﹐對中國的國家安全是非常重要的﹐比如日本參加美國的NMD﹐其目的就是與中國為敵﹗﹗﹗
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